Comments on: Gripe, Gripe, Gripe

By: sam

sam — Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:31:27 +0000

Well Dustin, while I agree that your advice is good, it is much easier to talk about than to implement. I’m no stranger to police interaction, and most of the time this sort of thing works. But when you are sitting there with two large men wearing guns, in their car, being handed back and forth as they try to catch you in a lie, its much harder to stand up for yourself. The ‘right thing’ runs through your mind, but you weigh that against the possibility of spending another two and a half hours with the police, after you’ve already been driving in the hot sun for over 6 hours, hungry and thirsty, and you want nothing more than to just have it end, and get home.

Also, while I agree that sometimes a little fib is necessary to protect yourself, I generally feel that honesty is a good policy, and I prefer not to lie to people unless I have to. Part of what annoyed me about this situation was that I was actually being 100% honest about the marijuana situation. If I had been lying, and was caught in the lie, then at least I’d know to myself that I was paying the consequences for my actions. If you lie, you have to be willing to accept what might happen if you get caught. But in this case, I was being totally honest, and I was still treated like a criminal. I wanted nothing more than to just have an intelligent, adult interaction with this police officer, and he was incapable of doing that with me. It was very frustrating.

By: Jasper

Jasper — Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:43:16 +0000

::via Greg::

At which point, the officer gives you another ticket for harrasment, but you both know who really won…Fight the power.
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The cop adds 2 tickets onto his monthly quota and youre hard earned money goes back into the system that is oppressing you. Who has really won here? Quite obviously its “the system”. Sam has lost to said system to the tune of 108$.

system one, sam zero.

Sam knew the right thing to do (tell the cops to bring the k9 unit) but we have all been conditioned to be obediant to power. Its very difficult to resist authority even when we know what we are doing is wrong. Check out

Dealing with cops is tricky business but I have been busted for LOTS of illegal things and the only tickets I have had to pay are parking tickets. These are some tips and tricks for talking your way out of doing something illegal.
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*If you are on a bike and a cop is on foot and they hail you down, pretend you haven’t seen or heard them and ride away. If they catch you later (as has happened to me) appologize, explain that you are hard of hearing and that the road noise blocked out their message. Then pretend to be very concerned with what their problem is.

*When driving I frequently speed because I don’t see any reason to get somewhere any slower than nescessary. If you get busted going between five and ten miles over the speed limit tell them your spedometer says you were only going three. Appologize because your car is malfunctioning and explain that you will get the spedometer calibrated tomorrow morning. Thank the officer for bringing the issue to your attention and let them know you are going to drive home slowly on less populated side roads to make sure your not a danger to other drivers.

if the officer persists in giving you a ticket let them know that its not a matter of negligence and you arn’t intentionally endangering other drivers, tell them (don’t ask) to give you a fix it ticket that way you can take care of the calibration tomorrow morning and clear up the ticket tomorrow afternoon.

a crucial thing to remember is that its not wrong to lie to police.

By: Andrew's Blog

Andrew's Blog — Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:31:33 +0000

Griping and some good stuff

Usually, I don’t appreciate people griping very much, but I did appreciate Sam’s griping when I read about it yesterday. Why? Because it told me that things could, indeed, be worse. I shall summarize in a cryptic fashion because I’m not tota…

By: Greg

Greg — Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:43:50 +0000

Rather, pull over and TALK. Sorry.

By: Greg

Greg — Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:42:55 +0000

Pigs. Dirty pigs. Here’s what you should have done:
“Son, your eyes look a little bloodshot… have you been smoking pot?”
“Officer, your eyes look a little glazed… have you been eating donuts?”
At which point, the officer gives you another ticket for harrasment, but you both know who really won.
Sorry, bro! It’ll all turn out in the end. Fight the power.
To quote Fear and Loathing, “Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. He won’t know what to think when you turn on your right blinker, saying that you are looking for a good place to pull over and stop. Little does he know, he’s about to make a 180 degree turn in speed. Brace for the G’s. Fast heel toe.”